Waiting,
Thank you so much for posting this. I hope that some active JW's who are in this spot might read this and recognize similiarities in their own situation, and see the sheer idiocy of it.
Thinker and I just had the opportunity of listening to a tape recording of a Talk radio show that dealt with a sister who went through a very similiar circumstance, without children.
What sickened me the most was her attitude about the org. They had disfellowshipped her on very shaky grounds, slander is what I got out of it. And she was begging for the brothers in NY, to hear it and rescind what the "unfair" elders in her cong. had put upon her.
This was in 1992, my fear for her was that she would just get right back into another abusive relationship, because she had only partial reasoning because of the mind control of the religion. Perhaps you have heard of her, her name is Cynthia Swink Costik.
I was numbed to the very core of my soul listening to her beg the brothers to reconsider. Her husband had tried to kill her on more than one occasion. While she finally saw the need and found the strength to leave him, she was still longing to be controlled by the organization.
I know you have experienced terrible abuse, as I have, and I think that things like this affect those who have very deeply.
TW
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Spouse & Child Abuse - JW style -experience
by waiting ini received this through e-mail on another forum "pioneeroutreach".
fascinating, horrible, reading.
it's long - but guaranteed to leave you thinking "what the ........".
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thinkers wife
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Ritzville Bound
by silentlambs ini leave tonight to head for ritzville.
there have been so many kind thoughts and notes sent which i am going to pass on to erica when i get there.
we even had a person from germany send $80 for flowers.
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thinkers wife
Hope all goes well!! May Erica be double blessed for her courage!
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An honest question for women only
by Skimmer inrecently, i came across the web site.
* http://www.classmates.com.
which is a directory of high school graduates throughout north america with many millions of entries.
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thinkers wife
Skimmer,
If I recieved an email like the one mentioned above from an old male classmate, I would be extremely flattered. This even though I am very happily married! Of course I would share everything in it's entirety with Thinker!
But what a blast it would be if someone remembered you fondly enough to take the time and make the investment to contact you!! Do know that when you email through classmates it can take several days to reach the person and then another several days for their answer to come back.
Keep us posted!! I think this is exciting. BTW, I am forty-one, definitely in your age group.
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The Secret of Sunchild
by Darkchilde inyes, it's me, "sunchild.
" i apologize for posting something so self-indulgent and mostly off-topic, but i sense that i've confused a few people here lately.
maybe this will clear things up... or just raise more questions.. i know that i'm not quite as old as some other people who post here.
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thinkers wife
Rochelle,
How wonderfully put!! And I think it so aptly strikes a chord in all of us if we are honest with ourselves.
Ex-JW's seem to be extra needy in a million different ways. Because not only is there the base problem but the issues that have been created in our minds i.e. to feel less, that truly affects our ability to grow, mature, and reach!
Cheers to you, for sharing this innermost emotion, and allowing all of us to reflect on the similiarities.
If you feel so inclined, please send me your URL.
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A Freudian slip? Perhaps not!
by LDH ingwen (somebody) on her post entitled "enemies of jehovah" made one of the most beautiful errors i have seen in a long time.. everybody spent all the years of their lives going doo-to-door for the wbts instead.
this is a classic.
from now on, i'm calling it doo-to-door too.. lisa
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thinkers wife
What an accomplishment, making me laugh out loud in our computer room at 7:25 a.m. That is a classic!!!
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Conditional love
by noidea inbeing raised a jw sometimes you feel you only know conditional love.
you are only loved if you tow the line.
i only have one thing to say,.
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thinkers wife
RealElder,
Might I say that your thoughts are very refreshing. I probably would not be out of the org. if there had been more elders like you!
I am in the same boat as Shaneliza and Babykins. My parents speak to me if I call them. But they show no interest in my personal life whatsoever and they express no desire to meet my "worldly" husband. Through mail and telephone, he has shown them nothing but kindness and reasonableness. But my mother especially has returned it with name calling, imputing bad motives and sheer nastiness.
My last conversation with her was about them not sending us a first year anniversary card. We had sent them a card and a gift for their anniversary which is two days after ours. Her response to my query was "I simply don't care. I don't know your husband and it (the anniversary doesn't matter to me". I was deeply hurt. As this choice of not meeting him has been entirely up to them. Although frequently she has tried to put the blame on us.
I feel that many of your expressions would be shared by my Father. But I am truly at a loss and confused as to how to deal with their attitude. At this point, I am hurt not to call them for quite awhile. Let me just mention, since I married my husband and left the org. a year ago, they have not called or communicated in any way once. It has always been me that communicates. They never ask anything about my new life or show any interest whatsoever.
I have been greatly intrigued by your posts and you attitude!
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How many English/Brits on board? America OwnZ!!!!
by d0rkyd00d injust wondering, how could anybody not want to come to the u.s. yes, i'm well aware i'm opening a post for flaming, and flaming is what i need to here!
j/k, but seriously, u.s.a. is the best country in the world.
one word: colgate baby!.
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thinkers wife
I personally think all countries have good points and bad points. Some of the bad points of course are worse than others. I have been to Europe three times and visited fourteen different countries. I was completely absorbed in the sheer ancientness (new word). Nothing, IMO, can compare to experience, trial and error, and just plain out age.
I am glad to be born in the realm of life I was born in, because it provides me with freedoms I am well aware that others even in my own country do not share. It all depends on chance. Where you were born, what station in life you were born in, and what you choose to do with it. It sickens me when I see others who basically have no choices or at the least, very few.
And believe me, I have seen with my own eyes, this exists in every country.
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Jehovah's Witness evangelist killed.
by Big Jim injehovah's witness evangelist killed.
after hearing word man stabs sectarian with knives .
moskovskii komsomolets, 31 july 2001 .
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thinkers wife
So very sad!! Despite her naievte (sp?) bottom line is she trusted too much and had a feeling for others.
I have to agree completely with Think41Self. Also Waiting, I loved that movie. Cried my eyes out.
We need more people in the world who have true concern for others, but we also need to have soundness of mind when dealing with anyone, because we can never know how others minds work.
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What is wrong with you people!
by larc inhello brothers and sisters,.
i just can't understand what is wrong with you, and why you have fallen away.
dear brother russell got this whole thing started.
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thinkers wife
Brudder Larc,
I new there was a reason I wusshipped the ground you walked on! 122 years, I am so imperssed!
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Indoctrinated at "church camp"
by d0rkyd00d inman, i can't believe how gullible people are.
my friend was an atheist, but recently went to a "church camp" for four days.
now she's back, and she said she's a new person.
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thinkers wife
DD,
I know how frustrated you must feel. My step-daughter went to Creation a four day religious camp in PA. And now all she wants to do is listen to Christian music. Perhaps it is just a phase your friend is going through. I think that is what it is with my daughter.
But you know having some belief in God isn't all a bad thing. It may help to ground and center her. Some people just need a group to belong to.
I get the feeling though, that this change in your friend may be affecting a relationship you and she had? Patience my friend. It may not be all bad!
TW